tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post6696181694987095428..comments2024-03-27T04:34:22.607-04:00Comments on Jade Varden Official Blog: Writing 101: Is Gotten Good Grammar?Jade Vardenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10684439238295775063noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-40651667334391165492022-01-20T10:57:50.348-05:002022-01-20T10:57:50.348-05:00I have been browsing online more than 3 hours toda...I have been browsing online more than 3 hours today, yet I never found any interesting article like yours. It's pretty worth enough for me. In my view, if all site owners and bloggers made good content as you did, the net will be a lot more useful than ever before<br /><a href="https://www.oncasinosite.net" title="카지노사이트" rel="nofollow">카지노사이트</a>Oncasinosite Nethttps://www.rollerjamusa.com/profile/oncasinositenet2/profilenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-90608634243343618942021-08-23T21:54:16.979-04:002021-08-23T21:54:16.979-04:00This is the best site i have ever seen today This is the best site i have ever seen today 5 situs judi slothttps://www.5situsjudislot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-34565653598661946262021-03-25T14:25:54.495-04:002021-03-25T14:25:54.495-04:00wow, gotten is hardly the same as having run aroun...wow, gotten is hardly the same as having run around the block two times, or twice: either one of those in most contexts is absolutely acceptable. I have gotten sick several times in my life...sometimes it doesn't seem so bad. I could have easily become nauseated by some of the snobby attitudes regarding the word gotten, and will attempt to incorporate it into my speech in a proper, but annoying way henceforth. Brad Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17003928011328069357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-66558896782781342782020-09-11T13:05:24.244-04:002020-09-11T13:05:24.244-04:00Your first example of gotten is correct. The seco...Your first example of gotten is correct. The second example not only sounds wrong, it is wrong-- assuming I understand your meaning correctly-- If you mean the same thing as "I don't have time for this," then "I haven't got time for this" is the correct form of got to use. The first example ("They have gotten off to a bad start") describes something which began in the past. But, (again assuming the meaning above), "I haven't got time" is describing your current state, so you would not be using a past participle. By the way, I seem to be in the minority here, but "gotten" has always sounded perfectly natural to me, and I usually prefer it, especially in informal situations. A lot of other options would seem unnecessarily fancy coming from me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642508566367267624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-56498282880087266962020-07-02T08:47:47.505-04:002020-07-02T08:47:47.505-04:00The use of abbreviations in texts has become so pr...The use of abbreviations in texts has become so prolific that they have made their way into the Oxford English Dictionary.<br /><br />Whatevs, simples, chillax, sumfin and Jafaican have all been added in the last 10yrs.<br /><br />Mr T M Likelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868170983361211101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-34100271870944087282020-07-02T08:34:41.668-04:002020-07-02T08:34:41.668-04:00Let's not forget:
Aluminum- Aluminium.Let's not forget:<br />Aluminum- Aluminium.Mr T M Likelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868170983361211101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-18259010947560020662020-07-02T08:28:03.376-04:002020-07-02T08:28:03.376-04:00Using 'gotten' in texts, emails or convers...Using 'gotten' in texts, emails or conversation is bad enough, in my eyes. It indicates a lack of vocabulary. For an author to use it is just lazy writing, plain and simple. A writer should embellish, not use shortcuts. I'm always disappointed when even my favourite authors use the word, as I expected more from them.Mr T M Likelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868170983361211101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-30290688206373699332020-04-23T07:06:57.095-04:002020-04-23T07:06:57.095-04:00Not liking a word is for me largely due to its col...Not liking a word is for me largely due to its colour. Gotten is brown and green, mucky tones, whereas 'received' has raspberry red & scarlet,and the sweet blue in the middle. Rich blue ends it with 'd'. Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795350828575386410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-47372870633745611192020-04-13T22:49:14.330-04:002020-04-13T22:49:14.330-04:00I was sick last week too! What a coincidence. Do...I was sick last week too! What a coincidence. Don't know how I got sick, but it was a real b ... bear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-43937209908268386792020-02-12T02:37:39.684-05:002020-02-12T02:37:39.684-05:00The American language is lazy English, if they can...The American language is lazy English, if they cannot see a use for a particular letter then it is not used. We all read it and can see the meaning but it is not English it is American.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04030896881381432182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-86116782242700035922019-10-13T00:49:48.824-04:002019-10-13T00:49:48.824-04:00"Last week I was sick" does not mean the..."Last week I was sick" does not mean the same thing as "I've been sick," which is more expansive in meaning. For example, "I've been sick" means any time in the past and leading up to the present. If you were sick last week and are still getting over it this week, you'd say "I've been sick."Tamar2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/02667802804702422060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-27093982378792745442019-10-06T10:37:04.322-04:002019-10-06T10:37:04.322-04:00irregardlessirregardlessAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02757634897811345060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-55090883974948136222019-08-25T16:56:31.453-04:002019-08-25T16:56:31.453-04:00Worse is the use of abbreviations in text/chat mes...Worse is the use of abbreviations in text/chat messaging now. A whole generation may be losing the ability to spell words correctly and use the written language effectively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-1262542799407933262019-08-25T16:33:37.667-04:002019-08-25T16:33:37.667-04:00I'm not keen on the word "gotten" ei...I'm not keen on the word "gotten" either, nor the Americanising (is that a word?) of many spellings as others have mentioned above. But I also realise that language grows and develops organically... would Shakespeare recognise the English language that is spoken now, even in the mother country England?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-20718656999645113992019-08-23T09:40:13.174-04:002019-08-23T09:40:13.174-04:00I was born and raised in England and never heard t...I was born and raised in England and never heard the word gotten until I met my American husband. I now live happily in the USA and come across this word frequently. I just thought it was bad English. I googled it because my pharmacist used it in a piece of literature about a shot so I then became interested in the word. How interesting to read all the comments on it, especially the one that mentions - forget, forgot and forgotten. This says it all. I wonder why gotten was dropped, by the English, around the time of Queen Victoria. Thank you everyone for helping me to understand why this word exists in proper English. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11348496159664526599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-34502749624961685072019-07-08T13:01:39.132-04:002019-07-08T13:01:39.132-04:00An alternative word is not just prettier; it is mo...An alternative word is not just prettier; it is more concise and often saves people from word salads. All of this started because a high school assistant principal posted that she "was glad to have gotten the chance to meet ...". A simple "I was glad to meet... is concise and conveys the same thing. Why do people "get hurt". Hurt is the verb. It's also a lazy word. Most anything can be written with something more specific. It's also often misused as a past participle, as with "He got sentenced". He was sentenced. Simple past tense, conjugated with the verb to be. Its such a go to word that it's often used serially. A sports announcer will say "he's got to get". A simple "he needs" is more concise. So, thanks everyone who got to get their eyes on my comments that I just got done getting down in this post :)KAPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12903360913462305972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-50879171392057362102019-07-05T20:21:07.346-04:002019-07-05T20:21:07.346-04:00Gotten, no way replace with received, have got. Go...Gotten, no way replace with received, have got. Gotten is lazy American gramma for people that can't speach enplish. You don't gotten off to a bad start you get off to a bad start. Thankyou unknown I agree totally, last week you didn't gotten sick . last week you got sick. It's the same as 2 times,it doesn't exist. The option is twice. Eg to do something twice. Not two times.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07470669295022522877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-79484433332313827722019-05-23T08:34:53.002-04:002019-05-23T08:34:53.002-04:00I am hard-pressed to think of any "manner&quo...I am hard-pressed to think of any "manner" of which the internet has not made a mockery.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17999205955407697299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-63634816704893466612019-03-18T14:26:42.111-04:002019-03-18T14:26:42.111-04:00No need for 'got' or 'gotten'. La...No need for 'got' or 'gotten'. Last week I was sick. Simple and to the point.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13538364212715923483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-84460170538416550682019-03-07T10:57:39.272-05:002019-03-07T10:57:39.272-05:00"...so many..."? like what? more than ..."...so many..."? like what? more than 'a few', now.stellarghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00620361820936194418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-8684939796348028022019-03-06T00:10:29.489-05:002019-03-06T00:10:29.489-05:00Here are two examples of context for you:
(1) Ill-...Here are two examples of context for you:<br />(1) Ill-gotten gains<br />(2) (lyrical) He hath gotten himself the victory<br />I can't bring myself to use "gotten" under any other circumstances. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634262760393797670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-53600234524007336632018-11-30T02:20:40.957-05:002018-11-30T02:20:40.957-05:00I think the idea that the English or the British a...I think the idea that the English or the British are increasingly using the word gotten is fanciful. I never hear it in any context. The odd Australian may use it but much of Australian language (and much else) is an interesting hybrid of both US/UK English. Another word that non-US English speakers cannot understand the use of is e.g. 'bring' in place of I will take. I'm sure to US ears it sounds natural (like gotten) but to others it feels very wrong (not saying it is wrong obv.)Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02301486767353698676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-27679941044121521572018-11-28T11:09:51.400-05:002018-11-28T11:09:51.400-05:00I am sad that Fowler was not quoted as an authorit...I am sad that Fowler was not quoted as an authority, but I suppose that he was English and now out of date with the plethora of "buzz words" invading our language.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653496787902481723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-62457847056990262692018-10-02T20:57:27.723-04:002018-10-02T20:57:27.723-04:00I have heard the word "gotten" a lot lat...I have heard the word "gotten" a lot lately and it bothers me. I hear people using it on the radio (BC Canada) and with everywhere, and yet I don't recall this word being used as I grew up or even before the last 10 years or so? So it is American, I suppose it is used on TV sitcoms etc...and Canadians watch a lot of USA TV. Perhaps that is it. I don't like it....I refuse to use it. I got a cold is fine, but gotten anything sounds ridiculous to my ear. Good old Queen Victoria...also while on this, went is being used poorly also, as in "I wished I had went there"...hear this all the time...it should be I wished I had gone there. What is happening?? Argh!<br />Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702157345184716603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1139108380465924768.post-17505902136014697582018-10-02T08:02:10.368-04:002018-10-02T08:02:10.368-04:00If I received a job application with the word gott...If I received a job application with the word gotten in it the applicant wouldn't get as far as an interview.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00128956073063276994noreply@blogger.com